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		<title>Closing of the Chinese Room</title>
		<link>http://thedialogs.org/2008/07/17/closing-of-the-chinese-room/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Na</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Student: Professor, is the Chinese Room open? Prof. Searly: Move on, buddy! It is closed. Student: Excuse me? Professor, are you OK? Prof. Searly: What do you want from me? The room is closed. There is nothing here for you. It is closed and closed forever. Student: Is this the same Chinese Room that you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Professor, is the Chinese Room open?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">Move on, buddy! It is closed.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Excuse me? Professor, are you OK?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">What do you want from me? The room is closed. There is nothing here for you. It is closed and closed forever.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Is this the same Chinese Room that you have always talked about?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">Yes. This is the room. This is the magical room which understands Chinese language. And now they closed it.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">But why? What happened?</div>
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<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">I do not want to talk about it.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Professor, tell me. There should be a reason for closing such a famous place.</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">It is all because of that guy.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">What guy?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">That little Chinese guy.</div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Professor, what Chinese guy?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">You know they found that Chinese guy who has been sitting in the room all that time. How could I know? I though it was just a program which can answer questions. The program is just a formal syntactical algorithm, and so I argued that there was no real understanding of Chinese there, but now, that guy actually spoiled everything. </div>
<div class="who">Student:</div>
<div class="what">Oh, please, don&#8217;t take it so bad. You will get over it. Try to think about something else. What are you going to do tomorrow, professor?</div>
<div class="who">Prof. Searly:</div>
<div class="what">I don&#8217;t know. That room has meant so much for me. I think I am moving in.</div>
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		<title>God Who Does Nothing</title>
		<link>http://thedialogs.org/2007/07/24/god-who-does-nothing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Na</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[god]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay Ingram: Here is this young man Alan Turnet who is called the father and founder of the Church of God Who Does Nothing. Alan, tell us how all this started and what exactly is the Church Of God Who Does Nothing? Alan Turnet: Jay, it all started as a joke, and honestly I still [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">Here is this young man Alan Turnet who is called the father and founder of the Church of God Who Does Nothing. Alan, tell us how all this started and what exactly is the Church Of God Who Does Nothing?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Jay, it all started as a joke, and honestly I still consider it to be a joke. One day we had a discussion about the new paradigm shift in understanding of intelligence and as it often happens among MIT students, we went quite far off topic.</div>
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<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">What is that paradigm shift you mentioned?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Traditionally, intelligence was understood as intelligent behavior. That view on the subject suggests that we can judge an object&#8217;s intelligence based on the way it acts. The essence of that approach was formulated by Turing in his famous intelligence test. His idea was simple, if we cannot find the difference in behavior of a machine and a man we have to admit that the machine is intelligent.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">That sounds quite logical to me. What was the problem with that approach?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">The problem is that it does not help us understand the nature of intelligence. For many years researchers were focused on building intelligently behaving machines and did not make any progress in understanding what intelligence actually is. The new approach to that matter suggests that acting is not a necessity of intelligence.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">But what would be an example of intelligence which does not reveal itself by way of some intelligent act?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Imagine a paralyzed person who cannot move, cannot speak, cannot act in any possible way. He is lying in his bed all the time. Every day a nurse comes to his room to take care of him: feed him and clean the room. Every day that paralyzed person is waiting for the nurse to come. He is lying in bed and listening until he hears her steps in the corridor.  He thinks: &#8220;It&#8217;s her. She will come in in a moment. After that she will turn on the light, come to me and say, &#8220;Good afternoon my dear patient,  how are you doing today?&#8221;. I think we have to admit that there is a lot of intelligence in making such a prediction.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">Interesting, so what is intelligence?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Intelligence is the ability to analyze the world, understand it and make predictions about what is going to happen. That prediction might lead to actions, but it is not always the case.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">OK. Now tell me how God comes to the picture?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">What little we know about human intelligence should also be true of any other possible type of intelligence. If we assume that some kind of metaphysical worldwide intelligence exists then it should not necessarily produce any activity. And vise versa, lack of such an activity does not necessarily prove the lack of intelligence.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">I see. In other words, God might exist even if he has never produced any divine intents in our world. So, the Church Of God Who Does Nothing is a group of people who believe in the existence of such an inacting God, right?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Correct.</div>
<div class="who">Jay Ingram:</div>
<div class="what">Interesting. But, Alan, I do not understand this: usually when people believe in God they hope that their God will do something for them, ether in their life or after it. You should not have any hope on such matter. If your God never acts, then what do you get from your belief?</div>
<div class="who">Alan Turnet:</div>
<div class="what">Oh, we get a lot from it. It is such a great feeling to believe that there is someone who actually understands what is going on.</div>
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